\nNemo: Europa \u015fi NATO \u00een r\u0103zboiul din Ucraina. Hai s\u0103 vedem ce au r\u0103spuns urm\u0103ritorii no\u015ftri. 38% spun DA, vor fi atrase, 62% sunt reticen\u0163i, se g\u00e2ndesc la vremuri mai pa\u015fnice, nu, nu vor fi atrase.<\/p>\n
\nAdrian S\u00e2rbu: Eu zic c\u0103 at\u00e2t ru\u015fii, c\u00e2t \u015fi ucrainenii au tot interesul ca Europa s\u0103 intre \u00een r\u0103zboi. C\u00e2nd spun Europa, NATO \u015fi toat\u0103 for\u0163a economic\u0103 care e \u00een spatele NATO. O s\u0103 spui: \u201cde ce dore\u015fte Putin s\u0103 ajung\u0103 \u00een aceast\u0103 situa\u0163ie de vizibil\u0103 inferioritate?\u201d<\/p>\n
\nHofi: Pentru c\u0103 pe el r\u0103zboiul acesta \u00eel define\u015fte \u015fi \u00eei define\u015fte cariera de lider al Rusiei de 20 de ani \u00eencoace.<\/p>\n
\nAdrian S\u00e2rbu: Dar el nu e \u00een inferioritate. R\u0103zboiul \u0103sta, nu scrie nic\u0103ieri Hofi, c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 se desf\u0103\u015foare numai cu tancuri din secolul 20. Nu, r\u0103zboiul \u0103sta, gradual, ajunge la armele zilei de azi. Putin are arme pe care nu le-a folosit \u00eenc\u0103 \u015fi are arma nuclear\u0103. Putin dore\u015fte ca r\u0103zboiul s\u0103 ajung\u0103 \u00een acea faz\u0103 \u00een care el poate s\u0103 \u015fantajeze cu armele care \u00eel fac egal cu America. \u015ei anume armamentul nuclear. \u015ei el vrea s\u0103 ajung\u0103 c\u00e2nd \u015fantajul nuclear este o poten\u0163ial\u0103 realitate.<\/em><\/strong> El acolo vrea s\u0103 ajung\u0103.<\/p>\n \nMarcela Feraru: Armele nucleare sunt arme de disuasiune. Nu sunt f\u0103cute ca s\u0103 serveasc\u0103 pe c\u00e2mpul de lupt\u0103, ci doar s\u0103 te asigure pe tine, cel care de\u0163ii acea arm\u0103, c\u0103 nu vei fi atacat. De aceea vrea Iranul s\u0103 aib\u0103 neap\u0103rat acea arm\u0103, de asta are Coreea de Nord arma nuclear\u0103, ca s\u0103 nu fie atacat.<\/p>\n \nAdrian S\u00e2rbu: Marcela, vreau s\u0103 te \u00eentreb ceva, dac\u0103 \u00eemi permi\u0163i, apropo de ce ce ai spus. Folosirea sau nu a armei nucleare. Te \u00eentreb a\u015fa: e\u015fti Putin. \u015etii c\u0103 nu ai nicio ie\u015fire. Nu numai tu, care ai declan\u015fat un r\u0103zboi, ci tot cercul t\u0103u. \u015etii c\u0103 \u00een orice variant\u0103 vei muri \u015fi mai ai o singur\u0103 \u015fans\u0103: s\u0103 \u015fantajezi cu arma nuclear\u0103 \u015fi s\u0103 \u00eentorci lumea \u00een sus \u015fi s\u0103 \u015ftergi pur \u015fi simplu aceast\u0103 dum\u0103 numit\u0103 descurajarea nuclear\u0103. Cam cum crezi c\u0103 ar reac\u0163iona cei care v\u0103d aceast\u0103 mi\u015fcare? Ei \u015ftiind c\u0103 tu e\u015fti practic cu funia ajuns\u0103 la par. Dup\u0103 care realizezi c\u0103 ace\u015fti cet\u0103\u0163eni nu te iau \u00een seam\u0103 pentru c\u0103 ei continu\u0103 s\u0103 nu cread\u0103 c\u0103 tu vei face asta. Ce analiz\u0103 gre\u015fit\u0103! \u015ei atunci ce faci? Ape\u015fi pe buton. \u015ei ce faci? Dai o bomb\u0103 nuclear\u0103 \u015fi le \u015fi transmi\u0163i: \u201cV\u0103 dau o bomb\u0103 nuclear\u0103 acolo ca s\u0103 v\u0103 ar\u0103t c\u0103 pot s\u0103 fac asta\u201d. Deci ai dep\u0103\u015fit punctul numit descurajare \u015fi ai ajuns la punctul ac\u0163iune nuclear\u0103. Tu crezi c\u0103 Putin poate s\u0103 ajung\u0103 \u00een situa\u0163ia asta?<\/p>\n \nMarcela Feraru: Sincer, da.<\/p>\n \nAdrian S\u00e2rbu: Eu cred c\u0103 exist\u0103 suficiente capabilit\u0103\u0163i ale lui Putin s\u0103 foloseasc\u0103 arme letale globale, f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 implice un lan\u0163 prea mare de comand\u0103 \u015fi de verificare. Eu asta cred, da? \u015ei asta cred g\u00e2ndindu-m\u0103 cum arat\u0103 Putin \u00een ultima secund\u0103 a vie\u0163ii lui. Arunc\u0103m 10 rachete nucleare, 10-20-40 de bombe, de nu \u015ftiu c\u00e2te kilotone \u015fi distrugem ni\u015fte regiuni, ni\u015fte milioane de oameni, infest\u0103m radioactiv alte milioane \u015fi s-a f\u0103cut \u015fi exerci\u0163iul \u0103sta. \u015ei, \u00eentre timp, Putin dac\u0103 e primul, s-ar putea s\u0103 aib\u0103 o \u015fans\u0103 de supravie\u0163uire ca lider sau ca tolerat. Deci, are el interes s\u0103 atrag\u0103 UE \u015fi NATO \u00een r\u0103zboi? Are. De ce?<\/p>\n \nHofi: R\u0103zboiul nuclear nu mai este r\u0103zboi, este un sf\u00e2r\u015fit.<\/p>\n \nAdrian S\u00e2rbu: Asta e o poveste. \u00cen doctrinele militare moderne nu mai este un sf\u00e2r\u015fit. Asta am \u00eenv\u0103\u0163at noi \u015fi ne uit\u0103m la filmul cu Oppenheimer. Putin are un interes s\u0103 atrag\u0103 Vestul ca s\u0103-l sperie \u015fi s\u0103-l oblige la un compromis. Compromisul? Foarte simplu: \u201eB\u0103i, \u00eemi da\u0163i Ucraina \u00eenapoi?\u201d \u201eDa.\u201d \u201eE \u00een regul\u0103, m\u0103 potolesc, m\u0103 angajez\u201d, \u015f.a.m.d. <\/em><\/strong>Eu sus\u0163in cu t\u0103rie c\u0103 vom fi atra\u015fi \u015fi, dac\u0103 vom reu\u015fi s\u0103-i \u0163inem pe \u0103\u015ftia \u00eenc\u0103 2,3,4 ani, poate vom avea \u015fi succes. Poate. Dac\u0103 nu, va fi o predare, o autopredare, o abdicare a Europei, care este condus\u0103 de ni\u015fte lideri care au un singur lucru \u00een comun: frica \u015fi nonperforman\u0163a \u00een ap\u0103rarea \u0163\u0103rilor lor \u00een ultimii 30 de ani.<\/p>\n \n <\/p>\n \nRezultatele sondajului Mediafax-ZF-Aleph News<\/strong><\/p>\n \nVor fi atrase Europa \u015fi NATO \u00een r\u0103zboiul din Ucraina?<\/strong><\/p>\n \nDA- 38%<\/p>\n \nNU- 62%<\/p>\n \n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Nemo: Europa \u015fi NATO \u00een r\u0103zboiul din Ucraina. Hai s\u0103 vedem ce au r\u0103spuns urm\u0103ritorii no\u015ftri. 38% spun DA, vor fi atrase, 62% sunt reticen\u0163i, se g\u00e2ndesc la vremuri mai pa\u015fnice, nu, nu vor fi atrase. Adrian S\u00e2rbu: Eu zic c\u0103 at\u00e2t ru\u015fii, c\u00e2t \u015fi ucrainenii au tot interesul ca Europa s\u0103 intre \u00een r\u0103zboi. 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